Let me summarized up to you any forum that has the word ‘prediction’ and ‘market’ tied to it. There are usually two opposing sides: Bulls and Bears. Both of them are kind of pointless.
The perma-Bulls are positive. They make the world sound like rainbows and can put a neutral to a positive spin on any bad news. They believe money will never stop flowing. Bulls don’t reject corrections or downturns but they tend to believe that brighter and brighter days will be on the horizon. They are the “glass is half-full” people.
Then there are the perma-Bears. The Bears are constantly pointing out the flaws or potential disruptions in the environment. They look at speculations that might put a damper on the market even when things are rosy. They’re the type of characters that think the “glass is half empty.”
Even a broken clock is correct two times a day.
I’m a big U.S. history buff so here are the top 3 “worst” era of financial panic – although past doesn’t predict future behavior – it’s just interesting to know (that’s probably why I’m the history buff.)
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The Great Depression (1929-1939)
The Great Depression is known as the worst financial depression in history, and also the longest. It’s extended duration crippled the United States and its government spanning in over a decade.
Although its worst was from 1929 to 1932, the Great Depression ended finally in 1939 when the United States focused instead in the world war that was brewing on the other side of the world. Overall, the United States lost 46% in industrial production, 32% in wholesale prices, 70% in foreign trade, while unemployment rose to 607%.
It started when the stock market crash (known as “Black Thursday”) happened. Citizens, from wealthy businessmen to ordinary people decided to put their savings in stocks, creating overvaluation. Overvalued stocks were sold by nervous investors in millions in just a day, wiping out the savings of investors who invested in these Stocks.
When these overvalued stocks were corrected, those who bought them procured great losses. Because of the loss and falling consumer confidence, people started to slow down spendings, and in return, unsold products and losses started piling. To manage their losses, firms started to slow down operation, which caused widespread laid off that affected 15 million Americans (20% of the whole population) and nearly half of banks closed. Those who were required to buy in credit were buried in debt, resulting in foreclosures and repossessions.
Although President Herbert Hoover tried to make the country stable, his belief that the government should not be directly involved in the economy and the creation jobs made citizens wanted a change. This desire for a change is one of the reasons why Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected in a landslide win. Roosevelt had relative success in recovering back the economy with public works, farm subsidies, and other ways early on his term. However, when the Federal Reserve decided to increase the money requirement, a sharp recession happened in 1937 which lasted until 1939.
The Great Depression only ended after Japan decided to bomb the Pearl Harbor, marking the United States’ entry into the World War II official. The increase in production of war materials, as well as the arising need for conscription, reduced unemployment and lifted the country out of the Great Depression.
The OPEC Oil Price Shock (1973-1975)
What happens when the 12 members of the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries decided to stop exporting oil in the United States?
The answer is a massive price hike of petroleum products. The 1973 oil price shock lasted in only six months caused the price of petroleum products four times. Oil prices rose from $3 to $12 per barrel and it never came back to its previous levels even decades after the incident. While the oil-exporting countries managed to benefit in this embargo, countries such as the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Japan, and the Netherlands were affected.
The stock market crashed, with a lot of cases of “gas stealers” appearing all around the country. Extensive oil rationing was done, but the impact was still too great, leaving 2-% of the American gasoline stations with no available fuel to sell.
This started when the then President Nixon’s decision to get the United States out of the gold standard caused the value of dollar down, which damaged the revenue of OPEC countries who sell their oil commodities in the dollar. However, the last straw for OPEC was when the United States decided to support Israel and sent $2.2. Billion for emergency military aid. The embargo ended in 1974, but its effect lingered till 1975 where government policies aided in the recession that followed.
Stagflation, or high inflation rate and slow economic growth accompanied by the high unemployment rate, happened during these years. When Nixon decided to release a new wage regulation, firms started to lay off workers. As unemployment rises, the demand for products also slowed down. The effect of stagflation only slowed down during the 1980s after passing Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and midterm of Ronald Reagan’s presidency. Ford’s government implemented anti-recession plans such as tax cuts for businesses and households but tax increase in foreign petroleum. After the decline, the United States experienced U-shape Recovery in which it came back to its previous peak before the start of the decline.
The Great Recession (2007-2009)
The Great Recession, or known in most of the countries as the 2008 Recession, is currently dubbed as the most devastating economic downturn since the Great Depression. Although this recession only lasted in two years, the way to recovery is long and hard. Its effects and aftermath was very pronounced in the United States and affected real estate purchases of a lot of people. The United States GDP saw a fall up to $650 billion (or 4.3%), with unemployment being in 10%. The unemployment rate only returned to 4.7% almost a decade later in 2016. Value of the stock market and housing prices lost $11.5 trillion or 17.3%.
It all started with the housing boom that occurred during the mid-2000s. Mortgage lenders were not strict and willing to lend anyone on bad credit a loan. At the time, buying these kinds of mortgages seems to be a good idea because housing prices were rising folds every year in North America and Europe.
Big corporations acquired a lot of properties with this kind of mortgages. This event will soon be known as the Subprime Crisis. Basically, financial institutions who bought subprime mortgages were unable to sell what they have bought. In return, they are unable to get even with their investments while mortgage issuers were on their tails.
The first institution to fall was New Century Financial in April 2007. It was followed by American Home Mortgage Investment Corp. A few months later, the ratings of the subprime mortgages will be reduced by Standard and Poor’s and Moody’s, bringing the asset’s prices lower. Homeowners then find themselves paying a mortgage that was higher than the value of their assets.
The Dow would see more than half of its value falling out of the kitchen sink, as the Fed started to reduce national interest rate up to zero percent to stir capital investment. The Bush administration sighed the stimulus package, which are tax rebates provided to encourage spending. However, this intervention was still not enough because, in 2008, big institutions such as Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers both collapsed. AIG almost didn’t make it, but the Fed lend $85 billion to save it. This was to prevent the destabilization of the US economy. The government released the TARP or Troubled Asset Relief Program which used $700 billion funds to acquire these troublesome mortgages and save big US financial institutions.
How To Prepare For A Recession
Although there is only a handful named recessions and depressions in US history, these financial downturn happens more often than you think. Most of the devastating recessions usually follow each other.
In fact, it seems like we’re off to another slow and painful road to recession this year, according to Forbes. How do we prepare for a recession before it happens?
1. Pay Your Debt As Early As Now
There are a lot of reasons to pay your debt before a recession is even announced. Once a recession kicks in, your debt will be even more expensive. Paying debts will be a lesser priority because the recession will force you to focus on essential things such as paying your bills and your groceries. This doesn’t mean that the interest of your debt will stop running, and it can be deadly if it balloons in front of you. You might find yourself in front of a debt bomb and before you realize it, it’s too late to escape.
2. Make An Emergency Fund
In any type of situation, an emergency fund is a good financial practice to do. The purpose of an emergency fund is to allow you to survive when an unexpected thing happens. This fund is very useful when you find yourself involved in an accident and you have to recover. Emergency funds can also be used during a recession, for example, if you happened to be laid off from your job and finding a new one proves to be difficult. An emergency fund will help you survive until you find a new job.
3. Earn Credentials And Improve Your Portfolio
We’re still talking about the recession, of course. But this is one of the most effective ways to prepare for a recession or any financial troubles. Earning new skills and credentials will not only give you a chance for promotion. If you’re a good performer, your company will likely retain you even during a recession. Although the pay might not be as good as before, it is still better than not receiving pay at all. In an unfortunate case that your firm or business is one of the economic casualties, your added credentials and good portfolio will make landing a job easier.
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How would you fare during The Great Depression 2.0? What is your “indestructible” number? Has anyone made one of these worst-of-the-worst calculations before?
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Yet Another PF Blog says
I think about financial disaster scenarios all the time! Full unemployment scenario, no touching retirement, we’d last around 3-4 years. With market drop that goes down to 2. Our “indestructible” number is paid off house + 1.1M, but we’re risk-takers (read: too lazy to do the same work for that much longer) so we’ll probably semi-retire at a lower number than that.
Lily says
Yup us too! We would be tempted to fold once there’s no more mortgage/enough to cover the mortgage.
Ms. Frugal Asian Finance says
This is an interesting and scary scenario. I always fear for the worst, so I do think about what would happen to us if both Mr. FAF and I lost our jobs. Our parents can’t support us forever. The most scariest thing for me would be to lose our house and us ending up on the street or our car since we’d have no money to stay at a motel/hotel/Airbnb. That’s why I want to pay off the mortgage early. At least we would still have a roof over our head >_<
Lily says
Pfftttttt duhhhh, then you move in with us, we have great schools here for baby FAF! 😀
David @ Zero Day Finance says
You’re starting to sound like me, with all my “prepare for emergencies” and emergency fund posts.
You may feel a bit crazy for suggesting a 45% SPX decline, 30% property value decline, and being un/underemployed, but that’s reality.
If you’ve got a family with significant debt (like a mortgage), you need to have a game plan for things like this. Right now, I don’t have enough extra cash to cover more than 6 months of pain and suffering, but I’ll also do whatever it takes to survive And provide for my family.
Lily says
I love your emergency post! It’s too expensive to be caught unprepared. I read over the stats (they do differ) from the original Great Depression and I took the worst cases. It’s not the drop that scares me…it’s the 10 years of stagnation and unemployment, yeek!
Chris says
Interesting! So you sound very much like a glass half empty person. But preparing for the worst case is not un-wise. After all if you can survive that, everything else is easy-peasy. Right? I’ve thought about this myself, and maybe we’re a bit cash-heavy because of it. Who knows?
And debt makes it that much harder, which is why I’ve been trying to get rid of our mortgage. I keep trying to drop it off at the bank, but they keep sending it back every month. Pesky mortgage. 😉
Great Post Lily.
Lily says
We’re more than half way killed our primary residence’s mortgage in the 2.5 years we’ve been here but I asked my husband if he was interested in killing it off but he said no. It’s very very very pesky hahaha!
Kris says
With the stock market on a bullish market for so long you know it has to become bear some point and it’s nice you prepare for the worst and making your husband to come up with possible numbers you might have if the worst happens. It is good to know all scenarios so you can be ready for it.
Lily says
Thanks Kris ?
Mrs. Kiwi @ KiwiAndKeweenaw.com says
Better fill my basement with gold. Oh wait, instead I’ll just fill it with food from my garden! Better to put my money in the market and accept that a crash may come! We’d still be good for a couple of years if the crash you presented were true! But the chances of us both losing our jobs at the same time seems unlikely! Good thing we have our hustling skills handy if needed!
Lily says
Hey yeah! Growing a garden isn’t a bad idea during major downturns!
Matt @ Optimize Your Life says
For me, the moment of calm and clarity came when I had enough money saved to live for a couple years and enough confidence in my resume and my abilities to believe that there’s no way I would go that long without income. The two components both hit suddenly, but at separate times. On the first part, I hit a point where I no longer feared losing my job. This made me more outspoken and confident, which improved my performance and my reputation. Now with a bigger network and more respect in my industry I have a lot more confidence in my ability to find employment. Plus I have so many other interests that I could just start a new career path (and enough money in the bank that it doesn’t matter if I start at the bottom of the ladder).
Re-reading this it sounds unnecessarily cocky. The point is to say that I am with you – I am not comfortable with my position until I believe that I can weather the worst possible storm.
Lily says
Confidence pays! I wish I used my vision as leverage years ago instead of being fearful of the outcome even though I was doing fine.
Mr. 39 months says
Typically it takes a bad downturn about 18-24 months to recover, so if you want to be “recession proof” have 2-3 years in something semi-liquid (Savings, CDs, short-term bonds, etc.). When it turns down, live off this for the 24 months it takes to recover, then start living off your recovered investments (while replenishing the savings).
Based on the “timing the market, long-term” article back on August 5th 2017, I’ve moved to investing in bonds right now, because the metrics are showing the market is in a “don’t buy” status. Note that this is a long-term timing strategy, so the market could continue up for the next 5 years before it crashes. Its just that the prices paid now for stocks don’t make up for the risk.
In the end, the market will have a big drop, but in the long-term, it will go up. The key is to not retire early right before it comes crashing down (unless you have that money socked away in savings)
Mr. 39 months
Lily says
Ah excellent! So with our 3 years (in a bad downturn) we would just about make it through with our depleted nest.
Interesting strategy – I’ll talk to my husband about shifting more to bonds since we only have 2%. Do you think bond funds are overpriced right now because people are nervous?
Femme says
1. History buffs unite!
2. We also can’t produce tenants because there’s blood on every street…
^^OMG haha I can’t say I haven’t thought of the worst-case scenario either–and not just for economics. I’m still building my net worth up to a point where it would be financially devastating to lose it all. I started late. I wouldn’t be happy to start over, but I think the scariest part is that you might not be *able* to start over–at least not immediately. And the turmoil happening around you….
Lily says
This frightens me too! I mean the worst happens in the first or second year but the rest of the decade moves slowwww too.
Darren @ Learn to Be Great says
Hi Lily,
It’s tough to figure out what will happen to military retirement pensions if the government cannot control their expenditures during tough times. I suppose this, and my young children, motivate me to keep building up different streams of passive income.
I just shifted my focus, since the market PE is so high, on paying down my mortgage until the next correction…or worse. ?
This was a fun read.
Lily says
Fear is one of the best motivators! Lol that’s clever!! Hmm…now you have me thinking…
Grant @ Life Prep Couple says
I fall into the perma bull camp. Sure there will be corrections but even when they are awful it isn’t that bad. If you would have invested all your money at the worst possible time (late 2007) and not invested another dollar you would have almost doubled your money right now.
I’m actually looking forward to the next correction so house prices will drop and I can buy one and turn my current home into a rental.
Lily says
Me too, but last time I told someone that, they called me insensitive. I was a bit grumpy at that, I wasn’t being insensitive, I was making a financial plan for myself…
Budget Kitty says
I love the back and forth between you and husband! If the Great Depression 2.0 hits anytime soon I don’t think we’re very prepared, but we’re working on building up and protecting our nest egg.
Lily says
Hahaha thanks Kitty :3
Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life says
Now you have me wondering what PiC would do if I made him go through this with me 😀 😀 I mentally run through worst case scenarios frequently but I so far spare him the middle of the night OMG – WHAT IF IT CRASHES!! moments 🙂
I’m still plotting how we might kill off more than half our mortgage and how quickly we can do it without sacrificing too much of our cash and investment ratios. Also, I’m planning our garden so if it really falls in the drink, we will have food of our own to eat if cash is nearly unobtainable or worthless! End of the world type planning, here I come 😉
ZJ Thorne says
In my planning for a Great Depression, I’m most concerned about my business. It takes roughly $6000/year to run. I recently read the Great Depression – A Diary, and it made me believe that having the ability to support my business for 3 years and assume nothing else was coming in would probably be adequate.
But if the Depression is real, I’m in a terrible position. I have under $20K of assets and over $150K in liabilities. I could default on my student loans or ask for forbearance if that is still an option. I could move back into my brother’s basement and reduce housing that way. But, yes, I’m not ready for a Depression.
Lily says
I’m sure there’s a lot of people in our community would help! (Sorry for the late response, I skipped this notification.)
Kristine @ Frugasaurus says
This sounds like us/me, we think about things like these continuously. There is a reason our primary financial goal next to employer independence is buying and rapidly paying off a house in the woods with large acerage so we can grow food to cover basic needs. We’re still a far way off, which makes me nervous, but at least we are working towards it, which is the best we can do!
We cannot emergency-proof our lives, but I will still try to prepare for some of what life could potentially throw our way!
Lily says
Thanks Kristine! I believe that’s Mrs. Frugalwoods? ? They’re stellar and you’ll get there too!
Mr. Tako says
I like to think that if the Great Depression came along again that we’d be ok. We’ve got 8 year of expenses in cash, and in those 8 years I bet we could figure out a way to make income again.
I wonder if we’d see price deflation in such a depression too. That could potentially stretch out savings longer.
Lily says
Oh yeah Mr. Tako, I follow you enough to know you two are solid. Oh heck, you’re gonna come out richer too! ??
Mark says
Well, I don’t think you have to worry when the next depression happens, you will be hired for the fireside chats for comic relief to lift everyone’s spirits.
Lily says
Hahah I hope so. I do like morbid things.